Forming buffer party

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  1. RedRobBlaze

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    I'm trying to complete the Assualt missions finally, and I would appreciate if I could be advised on where the best place for that would be and some advice on making a buffer party.
    Right now I'm trying a party of :archer:Relda, :wizard:Roxanna, :wizard:Toto, :wizard:Frau, with :cleric:Phoena and :knight:Juliana in the subparty. (I'm going to use friends as the damage dealers.)
    Is this a decent party in terms of buffs and getting chains off? Or is it impractical?
    The other buffers I have are
    Active: Uses a skill to buff
    :warrior:Malakya
    Passive: Uses an ability to buff
    :wizard:Claudia, :wizard:Aracne, :archer:Phillip, :archer:Oletta, :knight:Morgan, :knight:Rolo, :knight:Dannady, :warrior:Yoshikage, :warrior:Hero 5*

    The friends I'm planning on using are MLB Agdalas, LB1-MLB Carnalians, LB1-MLBYoshitsugus, a LB3 Selene, and generally anything else with a high attack to use while waiting for ones listed above to show up.
     
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    use rodell : 100% single party member buff but random
     
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    Yeah, no. A randomized buff like that won't really help much if it doesn't affect the damage dealer all the time
     
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    He's only the one able to boost to 300k.
     
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    I don't like to crunch numbers, so I'll try to give you \techniques and suggestions without any nasty calculations.

    There should be a damage calculator somewhere in the forum.
    Do ten pulls at LoS and see if Musika drops.

    And you might be able to stack the buff onto Oletta, with a stunner like Deed, and maybe someone like Toto. Maybe even morgan?

    You can combine Toto and Mefulnash for a super flame dance.

    I've also heard of someone stacking a super buff onto a Nine, but that's insane.
     
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    Doesn't Mefulnash reduce flame damage? Because I heard gumi mistranslated those types of skills, where it's says elemental damage is boosted, but instead it's reduced.

    Anyway, I got to 128991 on Assault 16, so my current team isn't that bad apparently. It's really a matter of getting the friends with high attack, getting the needed mana, and making sure the boss doesn't die from regular hits before finishing him with a skill. The hardest of those is the mana, so 3-mana skills like Selene(who I heard is good for this) and Musica are a bit tricky to work with.

    Now for your stunner suggestion, well, I don't have Deed, but I have thrax, morgan, and a LB0 Oletta with elder forest. Would that be a good enough to get over 150000 damage? Also I'm been doing this at Frozen Labyrinth at the maze pass entrance. Is that the best place to be doing the assault missions?
     
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    There's also the Treant Free Quest called "Long Eastern Branches" or something.

    I'm doing the damage calculator for you. Hope I get good results
     
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    This is a MLB Selene, (Phoena, Juliana), Rodell, Frau, Roxx, Musika,
    -- Basic Attack / Damage Skill Damage
    Chain 0 1481.4 24964.8
    Chain 1 2862.8 54802.6
    Chain 2 3318.6 69622.1
    Chain 3 5249.8 120605.0
    Chain 4 9936.1 265674.4

    Does Toto do 50% more damage or 100% more damage as a fire elemental? I forgot.
     
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    Also, how much damage does MLB Carnalian deal? 5x? 10x? I can't play CC, so I don't know.

    MLB Oletta, (Juliana, Phoena) Thrax, Frau, Roxx, Toto (Assuming Toto Flame does 50% more damage)
    -- Basic Attack Damage/ Skill Damage
    Chain 0 355.5 2952.2
    Chain 1 355.5 3242.4
    Chain 2 405.9 4107.3
    Chain 3 619.4 7082.7
    Chain 4 989.6 13439.1

    MLB Oletta, (Juliana, Phoena) Thrax, Frau, Roxx, Toto (Assuming Toto Flame does 100% more damage)
    -- Basic Attack Damage/ Skill Damage
    Chain 0 355.5 2952.2
    Chain 1 355.5 3242.4
    Chain 2 405.9 4107.3
    Chain 3 833.0 9719.9
    Chain 4 1341.9 18460.1

    MLB Oletta, (Juliana, Phoena), Thrax, Morgan, Toto, Roxx,
    -- Basic Attack Damage /Skill Damage
    Chain 0 93.6 464.6
    Chain 1 93.6 506.1
    Chain 2 93.6 547.5
    Chain 3 146.0 1235.8
    Chain 4 208.4 2307.5

    MLB Selene, (Juliana, Phoena), Musika, Roxxana, Toto, Frau (Assuming Toto's flame is 100% damage)

    -- Basic Attack Damage Skill Damage
    Chain 0 165.8 1284.0
    Chain 1 211.8 2314.2
    Chain 2 273.3 3843.9
    Chain 3 481.3 9023.0
    Chain 4 555.7 12403.5

    MLB Selene, (Juliana, Phoena), Frau, Roxx,Toto, Musika, (Assuming Toto's flame is 100% damage)
    Chain 0 165.8 1284.0
    Chain 1 175.6 1597.8
    Chain 2 217.3 2632.7
    Chain 3 358.0 6136.2
    Chain 4 592.7 13402.8
     
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    Thanks for the damage calculations, though one of the problems I see with them is that I only have a LB0 Oletta. So some of those calculations don't help much.(Unless I can find a friend with one) I tried checking the wiki for info on element buffs, but so far I only found a comment saying Toto basically gives a 100% against the right kind of enemies. But yeah, thanks for doing this.

    Also, for Carnalian, I have no idea, since I get all the percentages and boost info from the wiki, but it's shifting to be an English guide for JPCC, so they been ignoring characters like her since she's not in JPCC.
    And the last set of calculations seems to be the exact same set up as the one before it, yet with different results. Is this a typo or something? Not to mention the selenes teams are not possible since you can only hold up to 8 mana. That's one less than needed to get all of the skills in those teams activated. But thanks for trying.
    Though why can't you play CC? Is your internet down or did you delete the app?
     
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    My device broke. Quite unfortunate.

    You can actually do the mana-holding thing, if you activate a dancer, like Musika's skill right before the boss wave, then when the last mana roulette comes around, you'll have 3 mana's worth space cleared for extra mana. Not to mention Pirika's mana. Musika's dance works for 30 seconds.

    Also, buffs are multiplicative, not additive. Factor in the chain buffs, and you have a whole set of different numbers. The best damage output is usually a small buff, then a bigger buff, then bigger, then biggest. Except for Rodell, which you need to do first, becaseu his buff is random.
     
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    Ouch. I actually dropped my phone quite a few times, but it never got damaged in any way. Not even a cracked screen. My mother jokes that it's because she paid for the insurance for it.:lol:

    Those are some nifty techniques, going to have to try the order thing to see if that helps any. Though I did think about that, and the math indicated the result should be the same regardless of order. Ex. 4000 + 25%(4000) = 5000 5000 + 10%(5000) = 5500
    Switch that around. 4000 + 10% = 4400 4400 + 25% = 5500. So unless what you're saying is that the chain buffs increases the buff itself, I'm not sure your math is right. But won't hurt to try it out.
    Though if it's true, shouldn't Toto be near the start of the chain? His buff is only 10%. Any other damage increase you get from that is from the element buff.
     
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